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Social Club / Re: Steven Universe Thread
« Last post by PublicEnemy1 on July 21, 2018, 04:44:56 PM »
Steven Universe tv movie has been confirmed with a teaser

and We have seen a glimps and the eyes of White Diamond


We got two good days
Not to mention they showed the ENTIRE EPISDODE of "Legs From Here To Homeworld"
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Social Club / Re: Steven Universe Thread
« Last post by Kelli on July 21, 2018, 02:30:31 PM »
Steven Universe tv movie has been confirmed with a teaser

and We have seen a glimps and the eyes of White Diamond


We got two good days
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by Kelli on July 20, 2018, 02:14:40 PM »
So...anyone Saw the new Voltron trailer ?
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by GeoffreyStJohn on July 20, 2018, 11:17:50 AM »
I like the She-Ra design. I think there's plenty of "sexy", feminine heroines that girls can look at and aspire to be like, so there's nothing wrong with making her less traditionally feminine.

Black Widow, Gamora, Wonder Woman, soon-to-be Captain Marvel and The Wasp, even Elastigirl. There's lots of feminine superheroines so a less traditional one is welcome, imo. There's an argument for them changing a classic design so drastically, but hey, change is inevitable eventually.
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Social Club / Re: Power Rangers Timeline
« Last post by SBR on July 20, 2018, 09:37:14 AM »
Ok I know I just bumped not long ago but well following yesterday's announcement that Bat In The Sun and Lionsgate Games are cooperating on a Short film to tie into Legacy Wars Street Fighter campaign I've decided to add Legacy Wars and the Short Film to the Timeline.

But here's the thing. While Legacy Wars already was sort of a major cross franchise thing already it's primarily set in the Movie's continuity...Except for Street Fighter Showdown which the trailer show's off multiple Rangers (Including Tommy's Dino Thunder Black Ranger powers?) under M. Bison's control and no real indication what Universe it's actually set in. Gia does say a "Sorceress" resurrected Bison so that's clearly a nod to 2017 Rita.

To kinda Split the difference and since it's almost certainly non-canon anyway since neither Saban nor Hasbro seem to be all that involved I'm using the standard font for it and placing it in the Movie universe.
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by Kelli on July 17, 2018, 05:26:16 PM »
Ah I didn't know, I never got into 80's He-Man OR She-Ra as a Child and the He-Man reboot never caught my intrest

According to this
http://www.he-man.org/cartoon/faq.php?id=50
He-Man was 18 years old when the show started ,if its true then that's Still a big surprise cause hé doesnt look 18.

But the fact that He-Man in the 2002 series is 16 does hint that they want She-Ra and He-Man tot be Young anyway?
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by DoNotDelete on July 17, 2018, 03:27:54 PM »
They are confirmed to be 16 years old Donotdelete  :)) I agree they both look like grown adults that is why I was confused why She-Ra looked like a little girl before but if you look it up Mattel confirmed He-man to be 16 years old, its canon
http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/He-Man

2002 TV series

To tie-in with a new line of revamped figures based upon the original toyline, a new He-Man cartoon series was produced in 2002-03 by Mike Young Productions, again titled He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. This series retold the MOTU story from scratch. He-Man's origin was told in a 3-part episode that began the series, in which the 16-year-old Prince Adam is summoned to Castle Grayskull...

I was ready to agree with you and shrug it off and not care anymore about it... but that age for Prince Adam actually comes under the description for the 2002 TV Series, not the original cartoon. As far as I can see none of the other series actually give a canon age for Prince Adam or Adora.

So I dunno?

The fact that you , Me and a lot of other people did not see She-Ra and He-Man as teenagers means that Mattel really did mess up on the designs didnt they?  She-Ra was confirmed to always be a teenage girl by the creators hence why the reboot team went that direction. I mean I cant blame you I had to look this up too, cause I was confused as heck,

Yeah, I can't find given ages for the original series so I can only go off of how the original Prince Adam/He-Man and Adora/She-Ra look. They don't look sixteen, honestly.

Again there's also the thing where the sword appears to transform them into an adult version of themselves regardless of how old they actually are - something akin to the actions of the Master Sword in Ocarina of Time - but without the time travel.

So I dunno? Inconclusive? It's more than I care to quibble about, honestly. I only have a passing interest in MOTU. The Snake Men were rad though.
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by SBR on July 17, 2018, 03:06:15 PM »
I'm a real legit Masters of the Universe fan and I gotta tell ya...new She-Ra looks fine. I'm interested in seeing the show and I genuinely like the artstyle.
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by Kelli on July 17, 2018, 02:41:56 PM »
I don't know how old Prince Adam is - but I do know that Prince Adam and Adora are canonically twins - at least in the original cartoon - meaning they are the same age. The original Prince Adam to me looks like a full grown man - so I don't think the original Adora/She-Ra was a sixteen year old - I think she was also an adult. At least in the original cartoon.

I did have more to say in regard to the Prince Adam to He-Man transformation in the 2002 He-Man reboot being a kind of teenager-to-adult aspirational narrative - and how that also might be a thing for Adora to She-Ra - but having written it out and followed it through to its logical conclusion I think this whole discussion could easily become another politically correct minefield - and I'm really not interested enough in this to engage in extreme meme internet arguments.

That's fine. I don't disagree in regard to the insults. I also don't think people's reactions to this should be dismissed because they are not the target audience - especially if they are parents of young girls who are going to be exposed to this cartoon - such as the mother in the video I posted.

Cartoon characters - though fictional - do serve as aspirational role models - both in terms of their personality and their physical appearance - so they do serve a role in promoting a developing mind's idea of what is a healthy body image. You could argue either way that this She-Ra reboot promotes a healthy body image for a young woman - but I actually think women's body shapes are a little more diverse than that of men's - the whole boob/hip thing has a lot of variety to it. I think the complaints really are to do with the sheer prevalence of androgynous body images being pushed by mainstream media in preference to more curvaceous female forms - and what happens if enough women start to reject the push of these kinds of reboots/characters as identifiable female avatars/role models? It starts to make the objections men have look far more credible.

Interestingly enough (?) much of my aspirational role models were not even human. Most of them were robots, androids and cyborgs.

They are confirmed to be 16 years old Donotdelete  :)) I agree they both look like grown adults that is why I was confused why She-Ra looked like a little girl before but if you look it up Mattel confirmed He-man to be 16 years old, its canon
http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/He-Man

The fact that you , Me and a lot of other people did not see She-Ra and He-Man as teenagers means that Mattel really did mess up on the designs didnt they?  She-Ra was confirmed to always be a teenage girl by the creators hence why the reboot team went that direction. I mean I cant blame you I had to look this up too, cause I was confused as heck,

and I do agree with you mean but if you look at some of the comments everywhere else a lot of mothers and women say they want their little girls to watch this instead of the 80's She-Ra, I mean people can argue that 80's She-Ra was better but She-Ra in the 80's never ended up attracting its target audience of little girls, She ended up being populair with little boys instead. (not that its a bad thing but it shows that they miss their market.)

And its not like girls dont like kick-butting fighting girls, Sailor Moon exploded in popularity with little girls all over the world for a reason. I agree that diversity in body for female characters is a good thing that is why I dont think a flat-chested teenage girl is going to negatively impact any young girls, in fact I think all of those people that make  those comments how She-Ra looks like a man will probally make some young none-developed girls a little insecure.

My issue is that a lot of people are too quick to blame sjw's for this and scream about wanting a more faithful adaption when they tried that before with 2002 He-Man and the 2011 Thundercats, what happened? they both got canceled, ratings,  were low and the toy lines were not popular. Maybe the older fans liked them but the kids simply didnt.
 So that is why they want the shows to be done differently
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by DoNotDelete on July 17, 2018, 01:45:11 PM »
She-Ra was never really a symbol for feminity, she was Just a Girl version of He-Man made to sell toys for girlss, 80's She Ra ended up being more populair with the boys instead and she ended up being the reason why He-Man became less populair ( according to Mattel adding She-Ra to the franchise made IT less cool for boys, cause boys dont want to buy toys , girls buy too. (Pokémon pretty much proved Them wrong) so making the reboot different and really focusing on Little girls makes sense. Because IT didn't work the first time.

She-Ra also looked nothing like a teenager Girl, sorry but teenage girls dont look like someone in their 30's, She-Ra doesn't even SOUND like a 16-year old. This version looks way more like teenage Girl.

I don't know how old Prince Adam is - but I do know that Prince Adam and Adora are canonically twins - at least in the original cartoon - meaning they are the same age. The original Prince Adam to me looks like a full grown man - so I don't think the original Adora/She-Ra was a sixteen year old - I think she was also an adult. At least in the original cartoon.

I did have more to say in regard to the Prince Adam to He-Man transformation in the 2002 He-Man reboot being a kind of teenager-to-adult aspirational narrative - and how that also might be a thing for Adora to She-Ra - but having written it out and followed it through to its logical conclusion I think this whole discussion could easily become another politically correct minefield - and I'm really not interested enough in this to engage in extreme meme internet arguments.

I agree that companies should stop removing boobs from women (looking at your power puff girls 2016) but She-Ra is a teenage Girl and lots of girls full up their later in LIFE some even when we are 20. (i would know I AM a woman lol)  and the old She-Ra was a very campy show that didn't really got its target audience there and wouldnt get IT now with the same style and look. A change was needed. Not liking the redesign is fine but calling IT a man and people insulting the artist for being a gay is way too much. Its in DA, Twitter not Just YouTube comments, a lot of comments in FB, Twitter DA, and YouTube are of people saying, she isnt sexy to men anymore,..when men are NOT the target audience here and frankly they never were.

That's fine. I don't disagree in regard to the insults. I also don't think people's reactions to this should be dismissed because they are not the target audience - especially if they are parents of young girls who are going to be exposed to this cartoon - such as the mother in the video I posted.

Cartoon characters - though fictional - do serve as aspirational role models - both in terms of their personality and their physical appearance - so they do serve a role in promoting a developing mind's idea of what is a healthy body image. You could argue either way that this She-Ra reboot promotes a healthy body image for a young woman - but I actually think women's body shapes are a little more diverse than that of men's - the whole boob/hip thing has a lot of variety to it. I think the complaints really are to do with the sheer prevalence of androgynous body images being pushed by mainstream media in preference to more curvaceous female forms - and what happens if enough women start to reject the push of these kinds of reboots/characters as identifiable female avatars/role models? It starts to make the objections men have look far more credible.

Interestingly enough (?) much of my aspirational role models were not even human. Most of them were robots, androids and cyborgs.
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