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Social Club / Re: Your Favorite Obscure Cartoon
« Last post by Untitled on December 10, 2017, 08:19:08 PM »
You're suggesting characters which are female and/or of colour are somehow more progressive than male white characters - all the while ignoring anything those characters stand for. I dare say that if Storm Hawks had an openly gay character you'd be playing that card against Slugterra as well.

[sarcasm]Because it's not what a character stands for that makes them good or bad - it's their sex, race and/or sexual preference.[/sarcasm]

You also begrudge the Slugterrans for using guns whilst ignoring the things they use those guns to fight for - such as justice, defending the weak, upholding the law for the good of all (you're also ignoring the fact that the guns fire literal slugs - as in gastropoda - as in shell-less molluscs - and not lethal ammunition):

But back on point - the things you're saying - don't walk down that path. The things you're using to measure the value of characters with are entirely superficial - if not entirely false - virtues. Measure the worth of a character by what they stand for - not by their sex, the colour of their skin or their sexuality.

You do not make a good story by playing this game. Don't fall into that trap. Do not measure the value of stories (or characters) using those criteria.

Ok fine. Yes. My wording was a little broad. (I was in a hurry.) I was also not immediately thinking of the characters and their roles in their respective shows. I was thinking on the lines of being diverse. If I was a parent, I would want my kid to watch something more thoughtful, a little more inclusive. I'm a fan of slugterra, not as much as I am a fan of storm hawks, but still. Am I blinded by favoritism? Yes, most probably. But that doesn't diminish the point I'm trying to make. Storm Hawks is a world where females can be villains, Slugterra is not. Storm hawks is a world where a woman of color is on the team and contributes something the others cannot. While Slugterra falls flat in this regard.
Considering Slugterra is Storm Hawk's successor, it just seems a little odd.

Am I making something out of nothing? Ehhhh. Maybe. That's subjective. If my bringing up of a topic that's highly controversial, is a problem: Then the mods can let me know. Otherwise: This site is for all kinds of debates, over whatever we choose, unless dictated otherwise.
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Social Club / Re: Your Favorite Obscure Cartoon
« Last post by DoNotDelete on December 10, 2017, 05:45:37 PM »
Besides my personable preference for one over the other, Storm Hawks, despite being made earlier, has more progressive themes than it's successor SlugTerra.

Storm Hawks had a main female villain for the entire series, with a male right hand man. Slugterra does not, having only male villains and one of the later seasons introducing a female villain that was only there for a handful of episodes.

SlugTerra uses 'blasters', which are the cousin of guns. Storm hawks uses medieval weapons and magic crystals instead. Considering the rise in gun violence, Storm hawks was more thoughtful in this regard.

Finally, storm Hawks had a woman of Color on their team, for the entire series. Slugterra does not. Ever.

Oh dear. You actually went and said that. Oh dear oh dear.

Should I be laughing or crying? I really can't tell if you're trolling or being serious.

You're suggesting characters which are female and/or of colour are somehow more progressive than male white characters - all the while ignoring anything those characters stand for. I dare say that if Storm Hawks had an openly gay character you'd be playing that card against Slugterra as well.

[sarcasm]Because it's not what a character stands for that makes them good or bad - it's their sex, race and/or sexual preference.[/sarcasm]

You also begrudge the Slugterrans for using guns whilst ignoring the things they use those guns to fight for - such as justice, defending the weak, upholding the law for the good of all (you're also ignoring the fact that the guns fire literal slugs - as in gastropoda - as in shell-less molluscs - and not lethal ammunition):



This video is about as good an example as I can find. It's kinda like when Nerf guns met Pokemon and had some kind of illegitimate lovechild. It's harmless.

But back on point - the things you're saying - don't walk down that path. The things you're using to measure the value of characters with are entirely superficial - if not entirely false - virtues. Measure the worth of a character by what they stand for - not by their sex, the colour of their skin or their sexuality.

You do not make a good story by playing this game. Don't fall into that trap. Do not measure the value of stories (or characters) using those criteria.


oh gosh I remember really disliking this show as a kid, I dont remember it ever doing something new or different with  gender roles I only remember forcing myself to watch it because another show was coming up right after

I don't actually remember anything about that show (Ying Yang Yo) having any kind of gender issues but I remember not liking it - and yeah - only ever watching it because something better was coming after it.

It was very not good.
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Social Club / Re: Your Favorite Obscure Cartoon
« Last post by Untitled on December 08, 2017, 10:09:25 PM »
when it comes to TV shows, there was this one show I watched growing up called Storm Hawks. It ran during what many people consider the dark age of TV cartoons (mid to late 00's or so)

Overall, I think it was pretty darn good. Did it have it's flaws? Sure, every show does, but to this day the animation mix between 2D and 3D looks absolutely amazing, I swear it doesn't look aged at all XP And the story was a lot of fun as well, with an overarching plot running over mostly standalone episodes.



The guys who made Storm Hawks also made "SlugTerra". I personably like Storm Hawks better. I was pretty sour about how it never got a true conclusion and SlugTerra got three or more movies, more episodes, etc. Although it hasn't been making anymore episodes, so I dunno what happened there...

Besides my personable preference for one over the other, Storm Hawks, despite being made earlier, has more progressive themes than it's successor SlugTerra.

Storm Hawks had a main female villain for the entire series, with a male right hand man. Slugterra does not, having only male villains and one of the later seasons introducing a female villain that was only there for a handful of episodes.

SlugTerra uses 'blasters', which are the cousin of guns. Storm hawks uses medieval weapons and magic crystals instead. Considering the rise in gun violence, Storm hawks was more thoughtful in this regard.

Finally, storm Hawks had a woman of Color on their team, for the entire series. Slugterra does not. Ever.


One another note, does anyone remember watching a show called "Iggy Arbuckle"? I learned a lot about the environment and animals through that show.


And also Wayside?


This one bothered me. While it is pretty harmless, the teacher in the show picks on the new kid. All the time. And the students nor the principle do anything to help. This coincides with how one of my teachers in middle school would bully a lot of the students in class. She would single us out and act surprised when we did well. She was biased and a real b*tch. So I always hated teh teacher in "Wayside".

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Social Club / Re: Ian Flynn's Non-Sonic Projects.
« Last post by SBR on December 08, 2017, 12:06:03 PM »
Interview and first preview pages for Cosmo.

This looks amazing. I love that Cosmo and his crew are treating Captain Max Strongjaw (Love everything about that name) like a Puppy they just picked up. This series looks delightful and I want every issue.
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Social Club / Re: The Anime/Manga Thread
« Last post by Kelli on December 08, 2017, 03:30:06 AM »
Been watching a few different things lately. I'm caught up on My Hero Academia, looking forward to Season 3 when that comes out, and I'm up to date on Voltron. Other anime I've started watching are Ancient Magus Bride on Crunchyroll and Fate Apocrypha on Netflix.

Loving Magus Bride so far, the magical creatures are interesting and I like the growing relationship between Chise and Elias. I've watched up to episode 3 so far.

Fate Apocrypha is interesting compared to other entries in the Fate franchise, but I'm not sure if I'd recommend it yet or not. Also watched up to episode 3.

Oh, and I've caught with Eureka Seven for when the Hi-Evolution movies come out. Looking forward to seeing those :)

Huge fan of BNHA and Ancient Magus Bride here too  :D also up to date with Voltron
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by Snrub on December 07, 2017, 10:00:28 PM »
Stay safe, but I will say I have seen a lot of odd YouTube videos regarding the fires - blaming the fires on the NWO (presumably 'New World Order'?) and/or experimental energy weapons. Not sure if it's trolls or gen-yoo-ine crazies making those videos.

Odd stuff. I wouldn't have believed people actually put those kind of conspiracy theories about (much less put any kind of belief in them) unless I'd seen the videos myself earlier today.

Thanks, will do. I don't own a mansion on a fiery hillside, so I think I'm fine for the time being ;). Just some fires closing the freeways here and there making things smoky and inconvenient.

Speaking of crazies, I was talking to some guy in line at the grocery store who was claiming that he was watching the news and they were directing firebugs where to start fires. Not the first crazy conversation at the grocery store either, before that it was someone going on about the secret government base on the dark side of the moon. The most interesting one so far has been some guy on campus talking about how “they” stole Tuesday from him (tbf I think that guy just wandered away from the psychology dept). I feel like I’ve been smiling and nodding just a little more these days. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by Aedan7479 on December 07, 2017, 07:58:47 PM »
Am I the only one who has noticed that some of people have WED on their profile bar (that is what it's called right?).
So this is probably not the best place to talk about this but I need to say it. The other day an Adult Entertainer by the name of August Ames posted a Tweet about how she wouldn't work with and Men that did Gay Porn because she believed they have more HIV. Several people were offended by this including me as a Bisexual man who was a fan of hers. I didn't respond with anything harsh just that I found it disappointing to see her say Biphobic things.

She Killed herself last night from all the people Tweeting back at her. I've felt like just Raw Sewage ever since because even though mine wasn't harsh and was really just me saying that it hurt to see someone I liked post something like that I was still partially responsible for a person taking their own life.

Sometimes these things need to happen for us to learn a lesson, just look at Churchill, and not to sound like a jerk, but you should feel bad, other wise you could just make the same mistake again.
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Social Club / Re: The Anime/Manga Thread
« Last post by Tsurugi on December 07, 2017, 05:49:33 PM »
Been watching a few different things lately. I'm caught up on My Hero Academia, looking forward to Season 3 when that comes out, and I'm up to date on Voltron. Other anime I've started watching are Ancient Magus Bride on Crunchyroll and Fate Apocrypha on Netflix.

Loving Magus Bride so far, the magical creatures are interesting and I like the growing relationship between Chise and Elias. I've watched up to episode 3 so far.

Fate Apocrypha is interesting compared to other entries in the Fate franchise, but I'm not sure if I'd recommend it yet or not. Also watched up to episode 3.

Oh, and I've caught with Eureka Seven for when the Hi-Evolution movies come out. Looking forward to seeing those :)
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by DoNotDelete on December 07, 2017, 05:41:08 PM »
If you're going through a rough patch, you can find very kind, supportive and like-minded people on the internet, but I'd say - especially if you're somebody who suffers with some kind of depression or bipolarity - you have to know when it's time to switch off the computer, the phone, the internet TV and go for a walk in the park instead - or to the coffee shop - or to the museum - whatever kind of thing works for you.

I really, really don't believe that sites like twitter, Facebook or even YouTube are conducive toward good mental health - for anybody. There are times even when you're better off spending a week away even from little forums like this.

Sometimes when you're in deep in those social networking sites and you make a slip or say something stupid it can feel like the end of the world - it might seem that way, but it never is. You can always come back later and set things straight - but you have to take the time away to let things blow over (and most oftentimes the time away helps you get some perspective on the situation yourself).

It's not your fault SBR.

I wish my state would stop being on fire, I mean I like the general motif but I have things to do. At least burn something interesting down, I'm pulling for the Hollywood sign.

Stay safe, but I will say I have seen a lot of odd YouTube videos regarding the fires - blaming the fires on the NWO (presumably 'New World Order'?) and/or experimental energy weapons. Not sure if it's trolls or gen-yoo-ine crazies making those videos.

Odd stuff. I wouldn't have believed people actually put those kind of conspiracy theories about (much less put any kind of belief in them) unless I'd seen the videos myself earlier today.
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Social Club / Re: Posts of Randomness 2.0
« Last post by Snrub on December 07, 2017, 01:41:01 PM »
I wish my state would stop being on fire, I mean I like the general motif but I have things to do. At least burn something interesting down, I'm pulling for the Hollywood sign.

So this is probably not the best place to talk about this but I need to say it. The other day an Adult Entertainer by the name of August Ames posted a Tweet about how she wouldn't work with and Men that did Gay Porn because she believed they have more HIV. Several people were offended by this including me as a Bisexual man who was a fan of hers. I didn't respond with anything harsh just that I found it disappointing to see her say Biphobic things.

She Killed herself last night from all the people Tweeting back at her. I've felt like just Raw Sewage ever since because even though mine wasn't harsh and was really just me saying that it hurt to see someone I liked post something like that I was still partially responsible for a person taking their own life.

It's causing drama waves on reddit right now but then again what doesn't these days. The chuds and trolls are definitely out in force today, so I think I'm going to steer clear of my usual sites for the time being.

That said, I'm going to go ahead and take a wild guess that mean tweets weren't the main reason she killed herself. From what I read her friends say she had trouble with depression and was spending a lot of time online prior which to me says something else was going on, like she was shutting herself in because of some more serious issues. Mean spirited tweets were probably just the cherry on top. You probably had exceptionally little if anything to do with what she did.

Like what GentlemanX is saying, this world could do with a lot more kindness. I kind of feel like our culture, online culture in particular, is at a low ebb in that regard. Too many unhappy people doing unhappy things.
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